Ivan Thompson is a Veteran, Actor, Singer, and Entrepreneur. Below is the conversation I had with him
Ivan! It's certainly a pleasure to have this conversation
with you. How would you describe yourself to the readers?
I am a singer of inspirational music
and love songs. I am an author. I am an actor. I am a father of five. I am
active volunteering in the local community and with my local church. At this
point in my life, 52, I’m trying to develop every unfulfilled dream that the
Lord has placed in my heart.
Wow! You have a full life!
Congratulations. What do you do for a living?
I am retired military officer, and I recently left a full-time work to pursue all of the areas I mentioned previously. So I
am in full hustle mode now. I write books, seven in the past eight months with
three more to go. I act. I just completed a Budweiser commercial last month. I
rent rooms out of my house. I substitute teach. It’s been a challenge I may
have to return to a 9-5 but I am doing everything I can to keep working for
myself.
(A commercial that Ivan is featured in)
That’s all cylinders burning
brother! It can’t be easy launching out into the deep, but here’s praying your
hard work pays off.What would you say you are passionate about?
I’m passionate about helping people pursue their dreams, to
get started in things that they really want to do—especially young people. Two
of the last three books I have written fall into this category. I volunteer
once a week at the local Goodwill Career Center. It’s the highlight of my week
as I get to help older people sharpen resumes and interview skills and younger
people try to find their niche in life.
I've known you for YEARS now, and it wasn't until recently I
came across your music on iTunes. And I was impressed. It appears you have a
music repertoire, so can you take us to how you got started?
I have been singing since I was
about ten and have dreamed about singing before large audiences since I was
about four. I had the lead in a musical theater production in 9th
grade and have been focused on pursuing recording and performing opportunities
ever since.
What would you say was your first big break?
I performed on Bobby Jones Gospel in
1987 and I thought man that was it! Then in 2008 and 2009 I performed the
National Anthem for the Lakers. That opportunity opened doors for me to sing
for the NFL, MLB, WNBA, NHL, NASCAR, and the NCAA.
(Ivan singing National Anthem at a Laker's game)
Everyone has a dream as a child. What was yours?
I have three very vivid dreams from
as far back as I can remember. The first two are giving away large sums of
money and the second is fighting the devil. The dream of singing came in
somewhere later.
Fighting the devil? Awesome! That
would mean you love praying, since that’s one of the ways we can effectively
disarm the devil. As a child how did you learn to pray?
I didn’t know anything about prayer
as a child. I became a Christian in college and really didn’t know anything
about prayer and communion with God until I became Spirit-filled and read books
like “Practicing the Presence of God” by Brother Lawrence and “Good MorningHoly Spirit” by Benny Hinn.
You were in the military. How did that influence and shape
you? And did it help redefine your dream, or not?
I went to a military academy for
four years and then spent 24 additional years in the Air Force. So for 28 years
I wore a blue uniform. I think my military experience gave me a broader more
diverse view of the world having worked with people of different races and
having the opportunity to see different parts of the world. I think military
service has made me more disciplined, more appreciative of the sacrifices of
the military. I lived part of my dream in the military. I performed all over
the country and Europe as Tour Director and lead male vocalist for the Air
Force’s Tops in Blue Entertainment Team. I was able to share my vocal talent
with multiplied thousands. In my uniform I went to inner city high schools and
encouraged kids and young adults to spend time investing in themselves,
discovering their talents and abilities and making the most of their time in
high school. I was able to give time and money in the communities where I
served in the local church. My Air Force retirement has given me a level of
security that most up-and-coming entertainers don’t have. My retirement helps
fund my dreams. My experience in the military has also shaped my music in that
I have written several military tribute songs and patriotic music is a key piece
of my repertoire.
You are a believer in the Gospel message. How did that
happen, and how has the journey been?
I became a Christian in the military
academy I was attending, around my sophomore year. I was heavily influenced by
some friends. Initially I was on fire for God and my zeal masked some issues
that it has taken the Lord decades to finally get to. So I feel at times that I
have taken steps backward but in reality God has finally been able to get to
some root issues that cause me great pain even after being a Christian
since 1983. I used to mask that pain with a flurry of church activity,
work-aholism, five kids and wife. Now that my kids are gone and I am divorced,
God finally has me in a place where He can do his deepest work. It’s scary at
times. I thank God for Christian friends and groups like Celebrate Recovery to
help keep me stable as I get to the root of issues that go all the way back to
childhood.
Yeah, we all have issues that we
are working on. You mention masking pain with the flurry of church. I’m sure a
lot of readers may identify with this. Can you speak more on how easy it is to
use religious and church activities to form a façade, and completely mask and
drown underlying issues that need to be addressed?
I wouldn’t use the word façade in my case. I remember almost 20 years ago the Holy Spirit told me to quit everything that I was doing in the church, to stop serving in every area that I was serving. I didn’t understand it but I knew it was his voice. When I did I was so empty and I felt I had nothing. That’s when Holy Spirit said you’re right you don’t have anything because your entire relationship with God consisted of what you were doing in church and not in your intimate fellowship with Him. It’s the whole story of Martha and Mary in Luke 10
You mention that your issues
caused you great pain. Do you think this “pain” is ever revealed or expressed in your
artistic expressions for?
I don’t think it’s right to channel
pain into Christian music. Let me explain. I think we are supposed to be led by
the Spirit when we minister in song just like we would if we were preaching.
I’ve seen a lot of people minister in song by getting caught up in their emotions
and then leading people to move in their emotions. While I think our emotions
will always be involved, I believe if we lead people by the Spirit we will we
take them to a different place in the Spirit than we would have in our
emotions—especially sad ones. To me that’s blues music
You make a great point about being led by the Spirit in how we minister.
5 kids! You must be a proud father
of your kids accomplishments…..?
Very proud of my kids and their accomplishments and I take the time to promote them every chance I get. Three are doing very well in Hollywood as a make-up artist, hair stylist and fashion stylist/jewelry line designer. The other two are in college doing very well
That's awesome! Congratulations!!
Speaking of accomplishments, as a professional singer, does your faith define and influence your choices and decision making?
Speaking of accomplishments, as a professional singer, does your faith define and influence your choices and decision making?
Absolutely. My faith plays a major
role in the type of lyrics I would sing and the type of venues and settings I
feel comfortable in. It’s kind of odd because I sing love songs too. Not songs
about illicit sex but love songs, kind of like the love songs from the 80s
(Luther, Stevie, Lionel Richie, James Ingram, Jeffrey Osborn) when you could
sing about love and not mean casual sex. The same also holds true for me as an
actor. But because of the nature of the industry it has made it difficult for
me to navigate the music industry. On the flip side I don’t like singing gospel
music that is not based on the Word or singing in gospel setting where they are
singing “for show” or where the people’s offstage lifestyles are totally
contradictory to what they are singing. When I experience that I figure I might
as well be singing secular music in that secular artists are more honest about
their lifestyle than some Christian artists I have worked around. I’m in that
same boat. I want to live a life that reflects what I sing or not sing at all.
I certainly haven’t always lived up to that and am seeking help everywhere I
can so that my songs match my life.
Some puritanical Christians
believe secular music is just that, regardless if it is general love songs or
not. How would you explain to them that singing or loving old skool R&B
songs doesn’t contradict your spiritual convictions?
I think everyone has to come to their own convictions and draw their own lines. Take Stevie Wonder’s “Songs in the Key of Life”. That’s my favorite secular album of all time. Several of those songs have been performed as gospel songs. For me personally I don’t feel comfortable singing songs about graphic sexual activity, sex outside marriage, or song with profanity. However I don’t think the devil should be allowed to corner the market on love songs and have 100% ownership of how the airwaves define love.
Do you have any new music project you are working on?
I just released my first three
gospel songs. One is an original song entitled “I Want It All” and it’s a song
the Lord gave me about moving closer to Him with my heart vs. just my words. I
also did a gospel remake of the finale song “Home” from the musical “The Wiz”.
I have been wanting to record that song for forever it seems. But it’s finally
done and it is really good! Finally, I did a cover song, or my rendition of the
song “I Need You Now” originally performed by Smokey Norful. I think people
will like it. All of my music is available on iTunes and cdbaby.com.
You are also a writer? How did you get into writing, and
what do you write about?
Kenneth I write the things the Lord
puts on my heart. In the Old Testament, the prophets would get a word from the
Lord or a prophetic burden. Ideas for books come to me that way. My first book
was a burden about diversity in the highest levels of the Air Force. It’s
called “The Air Force’s Black Ceiling”. The Lord would not let me drop the
idea. Every time I would come to Him about what goals He wanted me to focus on,
He would say finish the book. I can see now why. Hundreds of copies have been sold
touching people all over the country and set the stage for the sequel that I am
writing now. I have written a book for Christian businessmen, "25 Essential Bible Verses For Christian Business Leaders". A book called “Increasing YourSkills and Abilities in Any Area- Hidden Bible Secrets to Success” which shares
my secrets to songwriting and how I have written seven books in eight months. I
wrote a book called “You Should- Distractions and Detours to Divine Destiny”
which is a book that talks about how in the midst of your search for divine
purpose you have all these people in your life saying “you should” do this or
that. I have written a book on fitness and I have a book on Confidence coming
out at the end of the month. I have three other titles that I plan to finish
before the end of August: “Finding Next—A Book of Divine Seasons”, “The Air
Force’s Black Pilot Training Experience” and “25 Essential Bible Verses for
Fathers”. All of my books, e-books and audiobooks can be found on Amazon,
Barnes & Noble, iBooks, and Kobo.
(These are just 2 of his books. See links above, and search his name titles in the various listed markets above)
Wow! You indeed have been very busy, and are going on all cylinders, brother! May God bless your endeavors.
Let's segue to your personal life. You are a father; can you tell us more about your life as a father, and possibly share some sage words?
Let's segue to your personal life. You are a father; can you tell us more about your life as a father, and possibly share some sage words?
I am a father of five. We had a
blended family, his, hers and ours. I could write a whole book giving you sage
words in fact I am! Look for it in July, “25 Essential Bible Verses forFathers” and look for a chapter I wrote on guiding your kids into their divine
purpose in the book “You Should”. I will say this though, you need the
anointing of God to be a good father. You need the discernment and leading of
the Holy Ghost to discover God’s purpose for your child and to guide them
toward it. You need the Holy Ghost to have patience and show love and to
overcome your own weaknesses as you model Christian living before your kids. I
made a lot of mistakes in front of my kids, some which led to divorce from
their mom. It has taken every bit of the grace of God to recover from that and
still impact the direction of their lives. Get the book.
Speaking of making mistakes, how
do you come to terms with mistakes you have made, especially if you
disappointed people looking up to you, and embarrassed people who were vouching
for you?
It’s been rough coming to terms with
some of my mistakes but I follow the example of David. He sinned, repented and
got up and moved on. He asked God to create in him a clean heart and to renew a
right spirit within him versus going in the corner paralyzed and useless
because of his past sins. If God can forgive me and I can forgive me then too
bad for anyone else that decides not to
Amen to that brother! You're preaching for real! As Christians, some of us, if not all of us, have a
testimony to share. Do you have one to share?
My complete testimony is not ready
for prime time. I’m not sure when that day will come but it will. The early
manifestation of my testimony is seen in part in the lives of my kids, in my
music, my military career, my acting credits and all my recent books. I have
overcome so much in my life, especially as a child that it is miraculous that I
am still here.
Rofl @ ""complete testimony not
being ready for prime time. Is it that hardcore, too raw and real for church
folks to handle, or still a work in progress?
I don’t feel led to answer this question.
I don’t feel led to answer this question.
Fair enough, I'm sure we can read between the lines.
So as incredibly talented as you are, what do you see yourself accomplishing in the near future?
So as incredibly talented as you are, what do you see yourself accomplishing in the near future?
Thanks for the compliment Kenneth. I
think I have only started to scratch the surface. I believe God wants me to
share my talents on a national level and beyond. That’s acting, singing,
writing, speaking, consulting. I’m laying the groundwork in all these areas now
and God is helping me to restore the years the locust and the cankerworm have
eaten to give me enough time to accomplish the success He has shown me in
dreams all the way back to age four. Thanks for selecting me for this
interview.
Do you have any last words to readers who may have a past, have made mistakes, or given up on pursuing their dreams?
You can’t use your mistakes as an excuse to be like the one talent man in the parable of the talents and hide your talent in the ground. You will give an account to God for what you did with the talents and the assignment He gave you. Abraham, Moses and David all made huge mistakes, deliberate sins but moved on to do great things for God
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